Subject	Yes and this copying undercuts the people who actually do
Posted by	240Z FeO2 on November 18, 2008 at 7:48 PM
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In Reply To	Re: Problems with AMS? posted by ali300zx on November 18, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Message	the R&D on new products, by reducing the profit they would otherwise get from their innovation, which also has the negative effect of reducing the incentive for creating additional innovative products. Chance favors the informed
Follow Ups	Problems with AMS? - d_flore 19:19:35 11/18/08 Re: Problems with AMS? - jas0n3485 19:26:00 11/18/08 *Shrug*....there = their and AMS promoter - 600ZXR 19:41:47 11/18/08 Re: *Shrug*....there = their and AMS promoter - jas0n3485 01:31:54 11/19/08 Re: Problems with AMS? - ali300zx 19:27:27 11/18/08 Not 99% at all - pcproa 19:37:00 11/18/08 Markham, ON Canada - Spongerider :) 19:41:37 11/18/08 Never said the core. You were the one - pcproa 19:52:02 11/18/08 Ok, Nacy. - Spongerider :) 20:01:24 11/18/08 H.B., ca USA - Prejudice (n/m) - pcproa 20:24:02 11/18/08 With some logic please explain how you came up - Spongerider :) 01:59:17 11/19/08 Why do you have to get all racial?? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:38:35 11/19/08 Location show where the poster lives. - Spongerider :) 15:04:15 11/19/08 You sir are a racialist! Their beady eyes and floppy heads - BigTDogg (MA) 15:35:55 11/19/08 LoL! (n/m) - Spongerider :) 15:39:51 11/19/08 Nick doesn't HATE Coz, he was just making fun of his shippin - BigTDogg (MA) 19:50:45 11/18/08 nixit is still waiting on his titanium key... (n/m) - dpjax 19:53:12 11/18/08 Naw, he hates me, it's a Titanium Key for crying out loud!!! (n/m) - Coz@CZP 00:25:40 11/19/08 just a made-up figure.. (n/m) - ali300zx 20:03:02 11/18/08 yoyo, wtf? - ni[X]it 20:19:15 11/18/08 OMG, this is about a key? I actually don't even recall >> - Coz@CZP 00:04:57 11/19/08 LOL, served (n/m) - vorpalZ 00:26:40 11/19/08 Nixit = Oprah (n/m) - AZHeat 21:50:51 11/18/08 Thank you Dr. Phil (n/m) - ShakaShaun(Denver) 21:54:23 11/18/08 Oprah's opinion matters to companies if they want - AZHeat 22:29:13 11/18/08 So you watch Oprah? - aliaZ 06:57:51 11/19/08 Oprah is a Billionaire and influential. Don't have - AZHeat 10:31:38 11/19/08 only morons are influenced by the likes of Oprah (n/m) - aliaZ 11:02:03 11/19/08 True, just like the morons on TT.net that listen to - AZHeat 11:07:06 11/19/08 morons are free to listen to whoever they like - aliaZ 11:30:34 11/19/08 It's sad but true. Many people are easily influenced - AZHeat 11:38:11 11/19/08 Yes and this copying undercuts the people who actually do - 240Z FeO2 19:48:02 11/18/08 (Total Hits: 2,979). - Spongerider :) 19:34:43 11/18/08 i saw one of'em at the SEMA convention with some blonde (n/m) - inf 19:40:12 11/18/08 Complete lack of ethics, charecter, and respect for - BigTDogg (MA) 19:43:14 11/18/08 So i guess its ok for powertrix to do it? (n/m) - blacksc 19:50:07 11/18/08 I never said it was. And perhaps they are partially - BigTDogg (MA) 19:54:56 11/18/08 Why don't you put a big NO POWERTRIX sign - pcproa 19:57:07 11/18/08 maybe he doesn't like Canuckians (n/m) - aliaZ 20:04:31 11/18/08 Who does? (n/m) - eriksu9 08:30:21 11/19/08 "I can't say for sure" - BigTDogg (MA) 20:42:00 11/18/08 Hey, I'm not your token Canuck, leave me out of this! ;) (n/m) - ZEngineer 12:12:11 11/19/08 I'll tell you EXACTLY why - SeedyROM 21:22:39 11/18/08 So it is okay to produce a knock-off if it not against - AZHeat 02:32:28 11/19/08 Exactly - pcproa 19:55:17 11/18/08 Carbing strut bars, coil overs, air guides....list goes on - blacksc 20:01:37 11/18/08 Why is it that you ams lovers only show up to defend - Spongerider :) 20:06:32 11/18/08 Please look up my post history in the Tech section - pcproa 20:10:19 11/18/08 Theres nothing sad everyone makes mistakes. - Spongerider :) 21:13:41 11/18/08 Ok first slow down and spell right. Second everyone needs - 5280Z_nightstalker 20:08:42 11/18/08 Good analogy on the job thing. - BigTDogg (MA) 20:52:51 11/18/08 Re: Good analogy on the job thing. - d_flore 21:45:47 11/18/08 Someone will always be able to make a copy cheaper - sfarrah 20:16:30 11/18/08 Yes prices may go down, but also they cause many new - collegeboy 23:12:37 11/18/08 *AMS, AMZ is different, IIRC (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 07:19:32 11/19/08 Langley, BC Canada (n/m) - Spongerider :) 20:02:26 11/18/08 big deal? - blacksc 20:04:25 11/18/08 Wear some glasses. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 20:07:13 11/18/08 I don't know how to respond to this, other than - pcproa 20:22:57 11/18/08 Chuckle, it's ok - vorpalZ 20:36:04 11/18/08 I've got cheap gas and matches .79 here (n/m) - CRAZZEPETE. 21:05:52 11/18/08 bastage, .84 here, and we produce the stuff (n/m) - vorpalZ 21:41:31 11/18/08 filled up for .79 yesterday. Get an Esso Speedpass. 5 cents - MixManMash 08:29:59 11/19/08 .79... Where? - pcproa 23:12:10 11/18/08 Ok, so.. 1 liter = 0.264 gallon, $1 CAD = $0.798 USD - BigTDogg (MA) 16:29:30 11/19/08 It must be the snow up there but where did I say - Spongerider :) 22:02:29 11/18/08 Snow.....???? Ignorance at it's best. You're really - pcproa 23:10:13 11/18/08 Did you forget your medication? - Spongerider :) 00:53:46 11/19/08 FWIW you don't see me pimping their products either - SeedyROM 21:03:08 11/18/08 Going to Fontana this weekend? (n/m) - Piranha(AZ) 22:16:33 11/18/08 Not sure which day yet but it's on my to do list (n/m) - SeedyROM 02:22:55 11/19/08 maybe, but I have bought a bunch of stuff from him - moxie (SF) 03:22:52 11/19/08 powertrix at least contributes some NEW products. - AntiHero 09:31:28 11/19/08 It's okay to steal as long as you earn the right - AZHeat 11:28:00 11/19/08 Most responses seem to be people trying to go into business - d_flore 20:04:47 11/18/08 it isn't so much about proper knowledge - aliaZ 20:16:06 11/18/08 How come you don't say anything when Stillen's products - AZHeat 10:24:37 11/19/08 what Stillen products are you referring to? (n/m) - aliaZ 10:43:13 11/19/08 Do your research. Suspension products, shifter .. (n/m) - AZHeat 10:52:23 11/19/08 Try to patent something and get back to us on just how use- - Bernie (NoVA) 20:16:16 11/18/08 IF only it were that simple. - SeedyROM 20:54:56 11/18/08 Z parts are expencive enough... - 300znick 21:15:46 11/18/08 you get what you pay for (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 21:21:44 11/18/08 you're the typical AMS customer - aliaZ 21:29:58 11/18/08 Enjoy it while you can - SeedyROM 21:34:03 11/18/08 >>> - ztunerz 21:37:59 11/18/08 The main thing is I don't see other companies - Seb (specialty-Z) 23:52:57 11/18/08 Lower the 3" 4-bolt downpipes price, you've been warned ;) (n/m) - Coz@CZP 00:22:39 11/19/08 oh you don't wanna go there do you? ;) (n/m) - Seb (specialty-Z) 00:31:45 11/19/08 Hey, you already invoiced me, I can say whatever I want :) (n/m) - Coz@CZP 00:32:39 11/19/08 when was the last time you looked at a Jeg's catalog? - AZHeat 02:25:17 11/19/08 I know how it is out there bud, especially since you - Seb (specialty-Z) 21:15:25 11/19/08 Seb > - ztunerz 13:52:16 11/19/08 I don't doubt that's a competitive market one bit (n/m) - SeedyROM 02:20:23 11/19/08 are you saying that SZ has given up on Z's? - 300znick 22:21:52 11/18/08 would you want to spend your time and money - aliaZ 22:38:31 11/18/08 I nominate that word o' the day (n/m) - SeedyROM 00:57:06 11/19/08 2nd, lol (n/m) - Ahmed (Chicago) 08:13:56 11/19/08 better and cheaper ehhh ? sure why not (n/m) - ztunerz 21:35:32 11/18/08 if its better... yeah why the hell not??? (n/m) - 300znick 22:26:29 11/18/08 damn you're dense - aliaZ 22:36:00 11/18/08 I nearly p!ssed my pants at better, BWAHAHAHAHAHAH (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 22:32:17 11/18/08 You are an idiot - na300zx (OH) 09:15:37 11/19/08 false. - Waggz 09:30:21 11/19/08 Who? (n/m) - Piranha(AZ) 20:24:04 11/18/08 Nice;) (n/m) - tdogzjoint 21:20:15 11/18/08 B/c copycats blow....plain 'n' simple (n/m) - The Hawk 21:28:52 11/18/08 Why should we care? Don't we have more important - AZHeat 21:48:28 11/18/08 Re: I think we have bigger fish to fry than "AMS" antagonism - rojoloco (San Diego) 23:27:49 11/18/08 you have friends? (n/m) - aliaZ 06:48:04 11/19/08 It's far from over, but this takes my mind off it. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:24:30 11/19/08 Gee what do you do for fun then? (n/m) - AZHeat 10:29:46 11/19/08 Video games, DJ, TV, and long walks on the beach, you? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:54:47 11/19/08 I make money and spend it on stuff. (n/m) - AZHeat 11:05:08 11/19/08 *and bitch about people bitching on TT.net :-) (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 11:36:35 11/19/08 Yup ,it's fun poking at the whiners on here :) (n/m) - AZHeat 11:39:29 11/19/08 drama queen (n/m) - aliaZ 22:03:22 11/18/08 <backaw> (n/m) - ZiNnYc 23:29:38 11/18/08 I promised myself I'd never get involved in the "drama" - SirpriZ 23:46:30 11/18/08 Welcome :-) (n/m) - Bernie (NoVA) 23:59:30 11/18/08 Glad to have ya. (n/m) - Kenny 00:05:18 11/19/08 Quality post! (n/m) - Piranha(AZ) 00:06:24 11/19/08 you are now officially a dramatic TT.netter! (n/m) - Seb (specialty-Z) 00:06:29 11/19/08 (Total Hits: 60,390). (n/m) - Spongerider :) 00:56:45 11/19/08 Amen, now we just need to work on a TTDC badge like - BigTDogg (MA) 10:26:11 11/19/08 I am name brand biased and I buy the American way - AZHeat 11:36:25 11/19/08 So if you value quality and performance, you wouldn't buy - BigTDogg (MA) 13:02:31 11/19/08 I have only purchased from SZ, SGP(Kyle), Stillen - AZHeat 15:17:04 11/19/08 Don't forget Coz... a short trip down the 10. (n/m) - Piranha(AZ) 00:14:37 11/20/08 Just for Giggles, How many of Stillen's R&D products - AZHeat 02:23:09 11/19/08 I dunno. How many? (n/m) - aliaZ 06:55:48 11/19/08 You want to have real discussion or be smart ass? - AZHeat 10:21:08 11/19/08 Stillen buys other products and rebadges them, totally diff. (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:26:59 11/19/08 They also have their own R&D orginal products too. - AZHeat 10:28:28 11/19/08 Who has copied a Stillen product? (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 10:52:15 11/19/08 Look on Ebay at Stillen knock offs just to name - AZHeat 10:59:45 11/19/08 You know better than to feed the troll - SeedyROM 12:40:19 11/19/08 I was bored (n/m) - aliaZ 14:31:54 11/19/08 I shot holes in your argument, so you name call me - AZHeat 15:24:31 11/19/08 Seedy & Aliaz = AMS/Z1 Troll. Tag team off each other. (n/m) - AZHeat 15:37:42 11/19/08 I would not consider them trolls. - Spongerider :) 15:49:44 11/19/08 They have a conflict of interest with this argument - AZHeat 15:57:19 11/19/08 And you had a JWT ecu, right? - Spongerider :) 16:39:43 11/19/08 what is the relevence of my JWT ecu? Not following - AZHeat 17:26:37 11/19/08 If you don't get it now then perhaps later.. (n/m) - Spongerider :) 17:40:35 11/19/08 not really - aliaZ 17:34:18 11/19/08 Then you have difference of opinion from Seedy on this (n/m) - AZHeat 18:17:34 11/19/08 Here you go Mike, I'm breaking it down like Legos... - BigTDogg (MA) 17:45:36 11/19/08 Copying is Copying, You can rationlize anything - AZHeat 18:14:39 11/19/08 As would I - aliaZ 18:38:17 11/19/08 HA carbing finish still looks better than powertrix - Dane (Houston) 23:00:38 11/19/08 you're a shortsighted moron (n/m) - aliaZ 23:56:05 11/19/08 "But ulimately it should come down to quality and service." - BigTDogg (MA) 08:56:22 11/20/08 Tdoggy, you shyt thrown monkey, look at my profile. - Dane (Houston) 00:17:34 11/21/08 Dana Dane you double talkin ape... - BigTDogg (MA) 10:34:51 11/21/08 Fee, fi, fo, fum.... - Waggz 11:24:07 11/19/08 fyi, they just released some new items - Ahmed (Chicago) 12:57:39 11/19/08 LOL @ O2 sensors, I'll stick with OEM thanks (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 18:05:18 11/19/08
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